11:33:45 From  Paul Belanger  to  Everyone:
	I'll be right back - talking to Paul Sutton
11:54:34 From  Emily Nagle  to  Everyone:
	using a new piece of tech here so I'm trying to figure out my setup here. hi everyone. happy to be here
12:02:13 From  Alec Tsoucatos  to  Everyone:
	Tim Jackson has a TED talk on YouTube on Steady State. Look it up ti’s very good.
12:13:54 From  Paul Belanger  to  Everyone:
	posted here https://eeeforum.org/beyond-gdp/beyond-gdp-olli/
12:14:47 From  Paul Belanger  to  Everyone:
	here the TEd Talk Alec refers to https://backyardbend.com/how-the-steady-state-economy-can-save-the-planet-and-promote-human-flourishing/
12:17:40 From  Paul Belanger  to  Everyone:
	the divergence in the curves of GDP vs GPI is also the result of the added cost of extreme weather events (wild fires, more extreme storms) that add to the GDP but not our GPI
12:18:56 From  Paul Belanger  to  Everyone:
	MARYLAND'S LINK HERE https://dnr.maryland.gov/mdgpi/Pages/what-is-the-GPI.aspx
12:28:22 From  Paul Belanger  to  Everyone:
	David puts notes in PowerPoint slides; I've been posting a PDF version of his slides and other presenters - they do NOT contain his notes; If you wish them email me at pebelanger@glassdesignresources.com and I will send you the pptx file that has those notes
12:28:33 From  Paul Belanger  to  Everyone:
	Oregon link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_Progress_Board
12:42:02 From  Paul Belanger  to  Everyone:
	John et al - there's no perfect measure - but the divergence between GDP and GPI as we move forward in time is PARTIALLY the result of extreme weather events (especially wildfires, floods, hurricane damage) that move GDP up but, as
12:42:37 From  Paul Belanger  to  Everyone:
	….as David highlights - does not add to our well being (sorry - I hit enter)
13:16:23 From  Rick Davis  to  Everyone:
	Great comment on population!  No one ever touchwea on that, treating it like a third-rail issue instead of a real issue.
13:25:15 From  Sally Isaacson  to  Everyone:
	cant hear
13:25:50 From  John Lodenkamper  to  Everyone:
	need to "share sound"
13:33:54 From  Paul Belanger  to  Everyone:
	“People who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it!”
	George Bernard Shaw
13:37:01 From  Paul Belanger  to  Everyone:
	Oxford Debate: "How to Save the Planet: Degrowth vs Green Growth?" https://youtu.be/YxJrBR0lg6s moderated by Kate Raworth
13:50:22 From  David Carlson  to  Everyone:
	Please put questions in chat that we can respond to next time.
13:55:52 From  Emily Nagle  to  Everyone:
	I agree the measurements need to shift towards measuring wellbeing. I guess my skeptical side wonders: will policy makers use wellbeing indicators if they aren't rigged towards their favor?
14:01:25 From  Paul Belanger  to  Everyone:
	https://eeeforum.org/beyond-gdp/beyond-gdp-olli/